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Saturday, June 10, 2006

Sikhs and the Gas prices

Yesterday, I went out with a few friends. We all had good times and I felt better. As I was walking out, an elderly gentleman stopped me and queried me:" Are you the one raising up the gas prices? Are you the Prince of Hezbollah?". His question was full of sincerity. He was perhaps a little drunk but there was no mailce. I smiled and said:" Sir, I wish I were that powerful but I am not." And then I went on explain "A brief history of Sikhs" to a drunk man. I am sure it was a wasted effort but whatever. I am sure he was confusing me with the Iranian Ayotollahs and clearly his knowledge of current affairs was at the very least, imperfect.. One of my non Sikh friend said that he wanted to kick that guy's butt but I don't think ignorance necessarily warrants rebuke.

I have noticed that some of us have resorted to the use of unparliamentary language in their comments. While I occasionally curse in my daily routine, I think it is mostly unbecoming of us. Not just because we are Sikhs. I think it is unbecoming regardless, if it offends others. I check my blog occasionally and I will delete those comments which I percieve are in poor taste.

My friends have been asking me to try the online matrimonial sites again in a bid to find myself a nice Sikh girl. I am a little sceptical about the whole idea. The whole time my profile was on those sites, I did recieve a fair number of responses. The only problem is that when I started to write back to them and mentioned that I was a turbaned Sikh, for some mysterious reasons, the conversations stopped. Mind it, this was before they had seen my picture. The mere fact that I wore a turban was enough to scare them away. I am not sure that it is going to be any different this time.

My friends have also suggested that maybe I should post my profile on this blog. Clearly, that would terminate my anonymity for good. But who knows, maybe it will also help me find somebody who will be stupid enough to marry me. I am still toying with that idea. Otherwise, I am prepared to go to India later this year and marrying the woman my parents think should be my wife.

I think some of our dreams should remain unfullfilled in life. If all the sugar from a sugar water solution were to crystallize out, the water would not remain sweet anymore. It is a twisted analogy from chemistry but it kinda makes the point.

35 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Harry,

I don't think going to India and letting your parents help you in finding a suitable wife is such a bad idea. In fact I quite like it. Most of the people in my family have been arranged, and they are all doing very well together. And in an arranged marriage, there is the definite innocence factor; the story of my brother in-law in India stealing a kiss or two from his would-be prior the wedding vows still makes the girls of the family giggle and blush.

12:47 AM, June 11, 2006  
Blogger Gurpreet said...

Hi Harry

I recently found ur blog n started reading it from post no. 1... must say ur blog is a real interesting one. I agree wid u tht most sikh girls today dont like turbuned guys.

I'm really sorry that u broke up with C, but don't lose ur hopes... U'll definitely find sum1 who is specially 'made for u'...

n d idea of posting ur profile on dis blog is not a bad one... who knws tht d some1 spcl reads ur profile n u two finally decide to get hitched..

6:38 AM, June 11, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just an honest comment , while talking to women , don't sound desperate , well even if u are! Ur blog sounds so desperate that the women that u desire will not contact u if she reads it! Yes women will contact u but never the type that you like !
You can try by posting ur Photo .... !!

6:18 PM, June 11, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are many online matrimonial sites where you can upload your picture so the whoever you talk to will already know that you are a turbaned Sikh.

11:08 PM, June 11, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

somebody help me!

I am a 25 yo sikh (unfortunately turbaned) guy.
I faced the same problems as harry. Any girl I liked brutally turned me down because I wear a turban. I was not able to find anybody I liked. Eventually I found a girl who I moderately liked, but my family doesnt like coz she is very average looking and does not have comparable education. My family says that they will find someone better. They are still living in a utopian world in which sikh girls are okay with marrying turbaned guys. I am trying to convince them somehow.
Even my sister is dating a hindu. She doesnt think anyone with a turban is worth her.

The idea of giving up my turban just revolts me. Its a part of me. So I cannot do that. I found someone who seems to like me (though she mentioned once that she is doing that coz her family will not like a non turbaned guy).

What am I to do here? Should I remain single whole life? Who should I be bitter against? My clueless parents? My sister and her like? Sikh girls? Myself? The last guru? who?

I feel so sick. I wish I was a hindu or something.

11:30 AM, June 12, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I feel so sick. I wish I was a hindu or something."

You can always fulfilll your wish.

12:51 PM, June 12, 2006  
Anonymous givelove said...

"I think some of our dreams should remain unfullfilled in life" - Harry

Harry, I would really like to hear you expand on the above comment. What exactly are your dreams, esp. in terms of marriage and dating? Clearly the reality you have encountered has not matched the paradigm you hold. I think if you explore this, you will be able to identify some of the roots of your frustrations.

The above statement appears to me as a declaration of defeat. Some belief, vision, or perception you once held is no longer reconcilable and you are coming to terms with this.

I am reminded of an older comment that asked why you felt so entitled. Why did Harry feel so entitled or desperate to find his "dream" wife. I guess this is what most people dream of finding. Harry does not have difficulty finding a wife, he has difficulty finding his dream or ideal wife. The challenges of finding an ideal "match" are not unique to turbaned Sikhs.

The women who come out and directly declare that they do not prefer a turbaned/bearded man, they should not be criticized for being real. Their environment, upbringing, and beliefs have shaped their views and preferences. If anything is to blame, it is the environment or upbringing. In the grand scheme of your search, they do you a favor every time they dismiss you. For example, wouldn't it be worse if there were girls who would look past the turban if you made a certain amount of money or attained some status. How much more confusion would there be!

I think back to my elementary days. Somedays I might forget that I was different, on most days I knew I was different. Obviously, the "top knot" and putca made me look different. With the constant harassment, I had 2 choices, to either crawl into a ball and play the role of the victim, or to believe that I stood for something. I chose the latter ignoring whether it was true or not. Life was never easy with long hair, but I had already embarked on this mission and turning back would be like pulling the rug out from what I believed I represented. I believed I represented my family, community, and my Sikh brethren. I stood unwavering through the onslaught of intolerance and hatred of anything different.

Things are not too different now. I guess what might hurt the most is that some Sikh girls are not understanding of what it means to succeed in being a turbaned sikh in America. It is an amazing feat! Blow the horn I will, I have earned it. You can't imagine the burden and challenge, carrying the flame of the Sikh image for the children of our times. And then there are women who dismiss a man even after this, or think he is less of a man, that is truly disappointing.

Standing for religious freedom is what America was founded for. On the surface, many may consider a turbaned man an outsider, however, he represents the principles of what this great country stand for. In my eyes, he is will always be the "American Idol." Don't let an ignorant turbanless preferring woman convince you otherwise.

1:53 PM, June 12, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My Prof:
Hgt: 6 ft
Eyes: Light Grey
Bakground: Bhapay
Edu: Last year of Pediatric residentcy
Bdy Sz: 120 pounds
Name: Ms. G

4:57 PM, June 14, 2006  
Anonymous Puja said...

"I feel so sick. I wish I was a hindu or something."
please dont say that. i m a hindu girl and i wish i was born as a sikh.

8:46 PM, June 15, 2006  
Blogger Sifar said...

First off all your not mentioning in your profile that you are turbaned wastes a lot of yours and others time and effort. Publish your profile complete and honest so that you can cut short on the people who are not interested in you. May be coz you donot mention in your profile that you wear a turban, a lot of people who may want a Turbaned Sikh guy may not respond to it as they might think that you may be a non-turbaned Sikh. Also, someone else also made this point that upload you image along with the profile on the matrimonial sites. I am a Sikh professional, Turbaned living in North America and have a sikh wife who is proud of me and my turban.

And to people who feel sick coz of their Turban and wished they were Hindus, I would say that they should rather feel ashamed that they think that way.

Bhul Chuk Dee Khema...

7:24 AM, June 17, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And to people who feel sick coz of their Turban and wished they were Hindus, I would say that they should rather feel ashamed that they think that way."

Thankyou for this comment Sarvjeet. I completely agree with you.

2:05 AM, June 18, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Harry.
I am a 25year old turbaned sikh currently dating a sikh girl.
I personally think your views are pretty one sided. Most sikh women I meet always complain that there simply are not many good sikh guys available. Somehow, in our society, there seem to be many more sikh women than men who are very educated and want an equally good partner. My girlfriend faced the same problems before we met.

There is also certainly some bias that you talk about. There will be some girls who will not be interested in sikh guys. But then tell me, would you settle for some one who is biased and prejudiced? or would you eventually find someone who is nice and will like you for what you are?

Take these thngs into your stride. Prejudice is everywhere, it will happen. Even you might be prejudiced, though you might not accept it. When was the last time you thought of dating that turbaned sikh woman you saw?

We are simply reflecting our society's ever changing norms. But in this chaos, you will still find people who will care for a deeper set of values than looks.
It is thus just a matter of time till you find one. Look in the right places. Try the local gurudwara. You might counter that this is a place of worship and you do not think about "such things" in the presence of God. But no, in our ever shrinking community, the temple is one of the few social places. Especially so in the US.

5:16 PM, June 18, 2006  
Anonymous Simran said...

T"ake these thngs into your stride. Prejudice is everywhere, it will happen. Even you might be prejudiced, though you might not accept it. When was the last time you thought of dating that turbaned sikh woman you saw? "

Above Anon:
I really do hope Harry takes this comment to his heart. This particular comment fulfills the purpose of this blog.

5:56 PM, June 18, 2006  
Anonymous Mr. G said...

Along with turban bias, I add there is height bias also. As I said earlier, there are other bises also, such as, caste bias (if you are Jatt then you are acceptable), birth bias (if you are Canada, America or UK born then you are acceptable).

I experimented the height bias recently. When I advertised a matrimonial profile with 6 foot height, I got accepted by many. But when I gave my profile with 5.5" height, I got rejected mostly.

In both ads, there was no mention of turban, or picture, but the profession in both ads was same, so that it may be concluded that height was the deal breaking factor in both ads.

From this experiment it is clear that women think 6 feet guys are more healthy, fit and handsome than 5.5" tall guys who might be more healthy, fit and handsome physiologically.

Women made decision to reject without even seeing the 5.5" guy(who might be athletic) or to accept the 6 feet guy (who might have a big belly).

So Harry should not be the only crying baby over his turban bias, he has other brothers who have been rejected just because they were not Jatt, Western born or were not 6" tall.

All these biases are based on faulty assumptions that "a jatt, weatern born, 6" feet tall man is better than non Jatt, Eastern born and under 6 feet tall man".

These assumtptions are wrong because India's PM, Dr Manmohan Singh is neither Western born, nor Jatt or 6 feet tall, yet he is one of the most intelligent men in India and the world.

What Sikh women miss is people like Dr Singh by being biased. Women's own faulty biases bring nightmares in the end for them.

7:18 PM, June 18, 2006  
Anonymous G said...

I also add Guru Gobind Singh was also neither Western born, nor Jatt or 6 feet tall yet he was the best of billions.

7:21 PM, June 18, 2006  
Anonymous Simran said...

Mr.G

I completely agree with you. You made some really valid points in above comment.
How very often we fail to realize even we might be prejudiced,

12:38 PM, June 19, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

guru gobind singh was taller than 6ft right??

11:34 AM, June 20, 2006  
Anonymous Mr. G said...

No guru Gobind singh was less than 5.6" tall according to historians, but very handsome and probably the best archer and the best poet ever born, his bani has 16 different languages.

The 6th Guru Hargobind ji was very tall.

8:03 PM, June 20, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Their are historical references to Guru Gobind Singh's height as per Guru Kalgidhar Chamatkar by Bhai Veer Singh .
Maharaja Ranjit Singh did search in his kingdom for someone who had seen Guru Gobind Singh. They found a very old Nihang Singh who was more than 100 hundred years old who had seen Guru ji. They brought him in a special palanquin to Maharaja's Darbar and he described Guru Gobind Singh ji as very tall, and slim with long arms touching almost his knees. He said his face was glowing like lightening and had a very sharp features and strong aura.

11:58 AM, June 24, 2006  
Anonymous G said...

Anon above,

Guru Gobind Singh Ji's exact height was 5 feet, 4 point two inches.

It is a well established fact of history that Guru Gobind Singh ji was not very tall, but he had extraordinary , superhuman, strength, stamina and wisdom.

He usually breathed after one minute and he could weild two swords so swiftly that no arrow could strike his body while he weilded the swords.

Guru ji wrote 1435 pages of gurbani in Dasam Granth, which is almost equal in size to 1428 pages of guru granth sahib. Although Guru Gobind Singh only lived until the age of 42 years, he produced more bani than all the 9 gurus combined produced in 9 lives.

Guru ji had long arms, thats true.


Ranjit Singh ruled from 1801 to 1839. Guru ji died in 1708.

According to you the witness to Guru ji's height was 100+ years old, which means he had barely born when Guru ji died in 1708. .

Considering that the witness was summoned by Ranjit Singh immediately after his emprorship cerimony, in 1801, the witness would be only 1 year old in 1702 and perhaps only 7 year old at Guru ji's death. At this age a child does not even remember his own height and everyone looks tall to child because the child is short at this age.

For this reason, the Testimony of a child in the matters of measurements is not reliable in courts.

However if Ranjit Singh summoned this witness after 5 years of his emperorship,that is, in 1806, then the witness was only 2 years old at the death of guru ji in 1708. It is impossible for a 2 years old child to gauge heights or even remember if in fact he could measure.

Your assertion "very tall" does not assist history". History ought to have some precision in such important claims.

Also Bhai Veer Singh, whose text you quoted was a poet and theologian, not a historian. He had both traditional and formal education. He was a high school graduate of 1891 from Christian Mission School and most excellent poet and novelist. He was a higly placed literary figure.

3:18 PM, June 24, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

about the dasam granth there is serious doubts about its authorship....read and research more, youre definitly going to easily find alot of info about that on the net.......

to say that' he produced more bani than all the 9 gurus combined produced in 9 lives.'
is probably not true becoz the SGGS only contain banis from 5 gurus if i'm not mistaken..........not all the banis from the 5 gurus were included into SGGS./
you need to read alot more MR.G
the conclusion you are making are all flawed.........pls do not comment on things that you are not clear about......not just this your earlier posts also suggest that.............you are only doing selective reading and not looking at history and facts from the bigger picture

9:47 PM, June 24, 2006  
Anonymous G said...

Anon above,

I am not making flawed conclusions. If there is any, give evidence to disprove it rather than merely saying.

SGGS has 6 guru's bani, not 5 guru's bani as you say(ist, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 9th guru).

My claim that Guru Gobind Singh produced more bani alone than all the 9 gurus produced together is TRUE.

Out of 9 gurus only 6 gurus produced bani and 3 gurus ( i.e. 6th , 7th, and 8th guru) did not write bani, nor is it present in SGGS or in any compilation.

This means that 9 gurus combined produced less bani than 10th guru alone. Thus this claim is true:

Guru Gobind Singh ji produced more bani in his 42 years life span than 9 gurus produced in 9 life spans.

This claim was meant to show-case 10th Guru's wisdom. Once an English writer said, if Guru Gobind Singh had born in England, the whole world would have been Sikhs. Such was the recognition given to 10th guru's wisdom; such was the tribute paid to 10th guru's sacrifice and such was the applause given by a famous foreign authour to 10th guru.

Yet here we find Sikhs like anon above who are not willing to accept Dasam Granth's bani as 10th guru's bani.

If you listen to a RECENT Chardi kala jatha's Video on Mr Sikhnet's recent blog posting, you will have plenty of evidence to believe that dasam granth is 10th guru's authentic bani and the reason why SOME enslaved Sikhs of Punjab do accept it as 10th guru's bani.

Jap sahib comes from Dasam granth; chopayee comes from Dasam Granth; and Sawaye comes from dasam granth. This means half of the Sikh Nitnem banis comtain 10th guru's banis.

11:25 PM, June 24, 2006  
Blogger Sifar said...

What has Guru Gobind Singh jee's height gotta do with finding a wife for harry. Do not compare incomparable with Harry or any other person. Harry or any other human cannot be Guru Gobind Singh jee.... So why compare or even refer to Guru Sahib in such context.

12:23 AM, June 25, 2006  
Anonymous Jatinder Singh said...

Dear G

I really like your post whic hincluded some facts about Dasam Guru JI

I would like to share your Post on one sikh forum if you dont mind

Just let me know
here is the forum address

http://www.sikhphilosophy.net

and my email

drjsingh@gmail.com



Jatinder Singh

7:22 AM, June 25, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to all those people who are crying because they are born sikh and wear turban- go get shaved if u dont like it, dont be coward.
wear the crown only if you are bold enough to take up the resonsibility

11:35 AM, June 25, 2006  
Anonymous G said...

Jatinder,

Thanks for the comment. Go ahead.

12:09 PM, June 25, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dear mr.G,
you said
'According to you the witness to Guru ji's height was 100+ years old, which means he had barely born when Guru ji died in 1708'. .

100+ means it could be 120, 130, 140
at that time it was possible to live for a long timeand also the reason it is said that that man was 100+ years is because during that age birth records of a layman were rarely kept and recorded.....Even today the oldest person living is written on the world records as around 112, but actually news reports hAs suggested the oldest person liveing now is 130+ but is not recorded as the world record due to the unavailability of birth records supporting the claim...


so you conclusion that
'Considering that the witness was summoned by Ranjit Singh immediately after his emprorship cerimony, in 1801, the witness would be only 1 year old in 1702 and perhaps only 7 year old at Guru ji's death. At this age a child does not even remember his own height and everyone looks tall to child because the child is short at this age.

For this reason, the Testimony of a child in the matters of measurements is not reliable in courts.

However if Ranjit Singh summoned this witness after 5 years of his emperorship,that is, in 1806, then the witness was only 2 years old at the death of guru ji in 1708. It is impossible

12:09 AM, July 01, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dear mr.G,
you said
'According to you the witness to Guru ji's height was 100+ years old, which means he had barely born when Guru ji died in 1708'. .

100+ means it could be 120, 130, 140
at that time it was possible to live for a long timeand also the reason it is said that that man was 100+ years is because during that age birth records of a layman were rarely kept and recorded.....Even today the oldest person living is written on the world records as around 112, but actually news reports hAs suggested the oldest person liveing now is 130+ but is not recorded as the world record due to the unavailability of birth records supporting the claim...


so you conclusion that
'Considering that the witness was summoned by Ranjit Singh immediately after his emprorship cerimony, in 1801, the witness would be only 1 year old in 1702 and perhaps only 7 year old at Guru ji's death. At this age a child does not even remember his own height and everyone looks tall to child because the child is short at this age.

For this reason, the Testimony of a child in the matters of measurements is not reliable in courts.

However if Ranjit Singh summoned this witness after 5 years of his emperorship,that is, in 1806, then the witness was only 2 years old at the death of guru ji in 1708. It is impossible for a 2 years old child to gauge heights or even remember if in fact he could measure.'


is seriously flawed
because you only are looking at the circumstances that the old man WAS 100 years old
as i have said he could be 120, 130 or mybe even 140 years old
i'm not saying everyone lived untill that age those days BUT this particular man was SPECIAL and he lived untill a very old age


SO,
if Considering that the witness was summoned by Ranjit Singh immediately after his emprorship cerimony, in 1801, the witness would be 21/31/41 year old in 1702 and 17, 47,37 year old at Guru ji's death.



he was/is a reliable witness
and contradicted all your points..... anyway, do you think maharaja Ranjit Singh was so stupid to believe a 100 year old man like that....he was known as a leader with great calibre, wisdom etc.....you think he did not at all think and wondered about that old guy statement..... what about all other scholars around at that time, you think they did not ponder on all this facts...and only now suddently, you thinking you are the only smart one around could figure out this........


as i have said before , you are a pain in the arse........( i will contradict all your flawd points one by one....do wait for my replies)


the most absurd point that you brought up was that we can cut our hair all aroud our body....or ROM as you have brought up..ok then
tk care

12:09 AM, July 01, 2006  
Anonymous G said...

anon above,

"100+" or "over hundered years" means less than 101 and not 121,131 or 141 as you claim now. Thats what we mean when someone says "my age age is over 20 years or 20+"; we do not mean 30, 40, or 50 when we say "I am over 20 years or 20+ years old.

According to you, birth records were not kept in those days, so according to your logic, all our guru ji's birthdays which we call gurupurabs are just false gurupurabs we celiberate and so goes with shaheedi days of all sikhs and gurus and their sahibjadas. So guru Nanak dev ji was never born in 1469, it might be possible he was born in 1509 according to your logic. Therefore sikh religion was founded in 1509. Thats a new fact for the world.

Since your logic does not stand the test of above reality, it is seriously flawed.

How can sn old man, who deos not know or remember his own age, be a witness of guru ji's age or height !

So anon, You cannot scew age of your witness too much to suit your claim. You cannot change historical ages to suit your claim.

1:34 PM, July 01, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"birth records were not kept in those days, so according to your logic, all our guru ji's birthdays which we call gurupurabs are just false gurupurabs we celiberate and so goes with shaheedi days of all sikhs and gurus and their sahibjadas.;


I said layman birth records were not kept.........youre twisting everything and doing selective reading AGAIN!!!!!!!!

i'm glad you only could find ONLY ONE FLAW IN MY ARGUMENT TO COMMENT ABOUT................

and by the way,,, the earlier guy who posted ,, do you mean 100+ by more than 100 and less then 101 or anything pls clarify
\
\\i'm, sure he mean more than 100
the guy earlier said
"more than 100 hundred years old who had seen Guru ji.."
because in normal conversations more than 100 is 110,120,130 .................. you lied when you say he said 100+
you are now not just twisting but also lying.... all you post are full of half truths and lies.....lolz

i'm here to stop the lies.....you are a pain in the arse.....


josh
18 year old khalsa

5:32 AM, July 02, 2006  
Anonymous G said...

anon and josh,

Oh, so birth records of ONLY special people were kept and laymen were not allowed to keep their birth records. May be there were special hospitals that used to keep records of ONLY special people and not the laymen.

HOWEVER, TO LET YOU KNOW, Guru Nanak DEV JI was A layman when he was born, he got beaten up by his father many times until his adulthood, so according to your logic his birth records should not have been kept.

Also Guru Angad, Guru Amardas, guru Ram Das, all were laymen belonging to poor famlies, so how come their birth records were kept. Guru Ram Das was an ordinary POOR chick peas, kale "Chole" seller for many years before he attained guruship. How come his birth records were kept. Guru Amardas was an ordinary sikh and laman: at the age of 80 he used to bring water pitchers from the far away river at chilling early morning hours for guru Angad Ji's Ishnan/bath.

By the way, the truth is that families did maintain birth records in the absence of public record keeping.

Even people whose birth records were not found, have some sense of their age. They may err about their age a couple of years (+ or -), or upto 5 years at the most, but not 10, 20 and 30 years.

IT FOLLOWS THEREFORE THAT YOU ARE DELIBERATLY SCEWING YOUR WITNESS' AGE IN AN ATTEMPT TO FIT IN YOUR CLAIM.

More than 100 year age does not mean 110, 120, or 130. More than 100 means 101, 102 or at the most 105.

And you have not ever mentioned when and in which year exactly this witness was summoned.

On the whole, a witness who does not even remember his own age cannot be a reliable witness of another person's age or height.

In a court, such a vague and unreliable witness is never accepted UNLESS backed by a second witness or other STRONG circumstancial evidence.

(If your arse is defective, go get treatment for it, don't blame others for pain in your arse)

8:53 AM, July 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Also Guru Angad, Guru Amardas, guru Ram Das, all were laymen belonging to poor famlies, so how come their birth records were kept. Guru Ram Das was an ordinary POOR chick peas,........'

Again RUBBISH,, RUBBISH

Each and every GURUS are SUPREME BEINGS and not laymans

just for our in that was bout 300 years ago
even today not everyone has their birth recors perfectly kept

I'm in the 21th century, but still i have seen many ppl who when their grandparents die they donot have their perfect birth records....even many just estimate their birth records

But when prime ministers, even mahatma gandhi dies their birth recors are almost accurate and perfect, despite being born as laymans

almost everyone born as laymans except probabably the royalty

the guru are adored by all.....they are not laymans, again i stress my point they are SUPREME BEINGS, idiot

''Even people whose birth records were not found, have some sense of their age. They may err about their age a couple of years (+ or -), or upto 5 years at the most,''

this is YOUR ASSUMPTION
did any study back that, any research, again a pile of rubbish,, your point of view, CRAP

Some ppl dont celebrate their birthday for years ,,, even dates dont make sense to them ........i have seen that kind of ppl today,....thay can hardly remember their birth date............wht about 300 years ago......

it's your crappy assumption that ppl forget their birth date in a range of 10 and 20 years

3:18 AM, July 04, 2006  
Anonymous G said...

ABOVE ANON JI,

Guru Nanak was BORN as an ordinary layman I assert; And Guru Gobind Singh ji himself wrote:

"Main Hu Param Purakh Ko dassa"
(meaning, I am merely a servant of the Supreme Being)

"jo ham ko parmesar uchre , te nar nark kunt me uchre" ( meaning any one who calls me a Supereme Being shall go to Hell).

In sikh religion, unlike Hindu religion, there is no concept of human worship, or Human Supreme Beings worship, tree gods worship , monkey gods worship, or snake gods worship (nag devta) or ganesh worship(Elephant god).

Sikh religion is based on monotheism, which means there is only ONE SUPREME BEING (PARAM ATAMA), which is to be worshipped. SGGS starts from the fact of IK O'Angkar (one God).

By the way, Which study backs YOUR claim/assumption that a person without birth records can assume whatever age suits his purpose ?

Age is a basic common sense fact of life, so people cannot err 30 years with regard to their age in the absence of birth records. We do not need studies for common sense facts. Only idiots need studies for such common facts because idiots have no common sense.

4:50 AM, July 04, 2006  
Blogger Spartan Singh said...

LOL, LOL, LOL ,LOL ,LOL ,LOL < whats he laughing about? > dunno must be mad! LOL...

Silence!

The Irony, lol, lol, sorry I cant control myself. Composure.

.....On the add it says I want to get married to clean shaven guy, (thats good what I wanted!)...

.. No more wearing that damn turban on my head! man my beard was long! Good job I cut it off! (Now Im a proper stud),..

..Oh look the marriage section, she looks hot! yep I match this criteria, clean shaven check, no turban check...

As they sit at the Gurdwara, his appearance has changed?!

''Hey bro I thought you got rid of your turban and beard?, you look like Osama lol''.. ''Naw this is just some traditional shit, I have to do, everyone does it for a sikh wedding. Anyway I'll celebrate properly at the party, watch me drink you through the table!''

''Hey I thought you were marrying a non-traditional Sikh?, why has he got a beard and that hat on?''...''Oh no its just some traditional crap we do at punjabi weddings, watch how sexy he looks at the party and tell me hes not hot!''

And so the couple made for each other continue with the formalities, walk around the Guru Granth Sahib. Continue and think of the wedding party to come where they can ''express themselves''.

LOL, tell me thats not funny!

Our Guru said....'' It is one soul in two bodies who yearns to meet thier true love, waheguru''

But these words are unheard, and this couple will be unhappy and thier marriage will not last. those who have no love for thier guru will never be liberated!

LOL, we are the real fools our guru is never wrong.

6:08 PM, October 06, 2007  
Blogger Jocelyn said...

Hi Harry,

My name is Jocelyn Voo, and I'm a freelance writer for CNN.com. Currently I'm working on a piece on arranged marriages -- specifically, how technology has influenced the evolution of arranged marriage in America. After reading your blog posts on how you've used matrimonial sites, I think you'd be a great person to cite in the piece. Plus, considering you're getting married soon, you are ideal to comment on the current state of the modern arranged marriage.

I'm on deadline, so I'd love to get in touch asap by phone. Let me know if this is something you'd be interested in.

Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you,

Jocelyn
voo.jocelyn [at] gmail [dot] com

7:18 PM, February 05, 2008  

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